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作者: ray375    時間: 14-5-2007 04:54     標題: Film vs Digital

其實即係黑膠LP vs CD. 胆機 vs 原子粒機. 數位化係必定啦. 玩菲林會變成 high end 玩意. 高手/大師會玩120/220 中底片. 或者 4x5, 8x10 大底片. 而135就死硬. 但我個人鐘意玩菲林. 果啲立體感, gray tone, skin tone. 數碼都係有分别. 尤其是玩過正片 (slide) 後. 數碼完全無得鬪. 至於 120數碼背就玩唔起啦.
作者: foureyesfatboy    時間: 14-5-2007 05:59

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原帖由 ray375 於 14-5-2007 04:54 發表 其實即係黑膠LP vs CD. 胆機 vs 原子粒機. 數位化係必定啦. 玩菲林會變成 high end 玩意. 高手/大師會玩120/220 中底片. 或者 4x5, 8x10 大底片. 而135就死硬. 但我個人鐘意玩菲林. 果啲立體感 ...
對! Slide 最好玩. 只是沖費問題如果唔係我都唔會用digital. slide d 色彩 由其是 kodakchrome 64. 當年係間影樓打工時玩過公司 4x5 同 8x10 好正! 不過自己玩唔起. 成日都去 Robret Lam Photo Lab 沖片 辦 pro. 真係唔知丑. 126 and 127....有無玩過? [ 本帖最後由 foureyesfatboy 於 14-5-2007 06:00 編輯 ]
作者: ray375    時間: 14-5-2007 08:55

我有一倍 Kodak Hawkeye 係用 126. 不過未影過. 至於 4x5, 8x10. 我有自知之明....... 有人話見過 16x20 機. 你有冇聽過?
作者: ray375    時間: 14-5-2007 11:00

底片方面, 本人較喜歡 Fujifilm. NPS, NPH. 至於 Reala 就麻痳. 早幾年識得一名鬼妹於柯達 head office 工作. 可以攞到員工価 (40% off). 所以都用過好多 160NC, 160VC. 不過而家佢無做囉.
作者: foureyesfatboy    時間: 14-5-2007 11:42

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原帖由 ray375 於 14-5-2007 08:55 發表 我有一倍 Kodak Hawkeye 係用 126. 不過未影過. 至於 4x5, 8x10. 我有自知之明....... 有人話見過 16x20 機. 你有冇聽過?
16x20 format 除了做分色時見過大過16x20. 不過是影版相機.....鏡頭同film成間房咁長......點樣帶出街 126未用過....127 只是八九歲時攞過呀哥部相機玩過....
作者: celia    時間: 23-5-2007 10:56

我都覺得影出黎film 好過 digital, 當然冇您地咁Pro 講講下停左..即係唔會講到135菲林啦 其實想問下..細個影D相係四四方方的,同而家果D唔同,應該唔係135菲林啦係咪? 咁係咪菲林黎?
作者: ray375    時間: 23-5-2007 11:27

四方相係 120菲林. Medium format. 而家係啲影樓用. 放大好正. 我都有部. 但影張相好費時. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/shop/465/Cameras_Lenses_Medium_Format_Cameras.html
作者: celia    時間: 23-5-2007 11:38

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原帖由 ray375 於 23-5-2007 11:27 發表 四方相係 120菲林. Medium format. 而家係啲影樓用. 放大好正. 我都有部. 但影張相好費時. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/shop/465/Cameras_Lenses_Medium_Format_Cameras.html
Thank you~~ 又諗起細個果部相機要人手攪菲林,大約係右上角位置,影完一張要攪一下菲林(唔攪下一張係咪會重�磪�?) 當冇菲林係入面時會拎黎玩,係咁攪係咁影...好彩冇玩壞
作者: ray375    時間: 23-5-2007 11:48

No. 唔搞一下個'失打'掣按唔落. 所以唔攪下一張係唔會重�磪�.
作者: celia    時間: 23-5-2007 11:52

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原帖由 ray375 於 23-5-2007 11:48 發表 No. 唔搞一下個'失打'掣按唔落. 所以唔攪下一張係唔會重�磪�.
原來係咁~~~
作者: funplay    時間: 23-5-2007 22:59

I have been using canon 5D for almost a year now. Resolution is great and is comparable to 645 film for enlargement; Depth of field is same as 135 film camera; Only thing is colour management. Since I have gone to digital I have invested a new monitor, monitor calibrator, endless hours of studies and testing to try to get faithful colour on end products. I am still learning and it is an very interesting area. However, I still shoot film and still got Raymond's old 1v as a back-up and shooting positive (slide) and monochorme.
作者: ray375    時間: 24-5-2007 05:00

Nice to see you at Old Cake. 我有數名老友都用 5D. 我都好想買部. 但攞唔到'批文'. 而且菲林果種味到係數碼現時都未能做到. 等如玩 Hi End音响要聽黑膠 LP. Please take care my baby.
作者: gw007hk    時間: 20-8-2007 16:09

我係新人, 亦都係老餅, 相機用Rolleiflex 2.8FX & FUJI GW690II, 2部都係中幅FIXED LENS.
作者: SIG    時間: 10-10-2007 15:41

I am still using 135 film camera, Canon EOS-1 and EOS RT.
作者: lonelyboy    時間: 18-10-2007 21:01

I also using film camera - Hasselblad & Leica
作者: ray375    時間: 8-2-2008 06:02

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原帖由 SIG 於 10-10-2007 03:41 PM 發表 I am still using 135 film camera, Canon EOS-1 and EOS RT.


Canon RT 我未玩過. 老友中有部 Canon EOS-1RS. 果啲'進片'速度十分驚人.

作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 29-2-2008 09:12

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原帖由 ray375 於 8-2-2008 06:02 發表 Canon RT 我未玩過. 老友中有部 Canon EOS-1RS. 果啲'進片'速度十分驚人.

do you have your own dark room ?

 


作者: East    時間: 3-4-2008 09:15

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原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 29-2-2008 09:12 發表 do you have your own dark room ?  

 

講開Dark Room, 我在讀書時曾經有過兩部二手放大機, 一部彩色一部黑白, 也曾經認真想過用間細房仔改黑房.
但最後都因各種原因放棄了, D機也送了給人......

 

其實, 玩黑房真係幾好玩. 尤其玩黑白相, 可自已完全控制出來的效果. 也可隨意玩花樣搞效果.
真係過引極!!


作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 3-4-2008 09:41

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原帖由 East 於 3-4-2008 09:15 發表   講開Dark Room, 我在讀書時曾經有過兩部二手放大機, 一部彩色一部黑白, 也曾經認真想過用間細房仔改黑房.但最後都因各種原因放棄了, D機也送了給人......   其實, 玩黑房真係幾好玩. 尤其玩 ...
my father had a dark room because he was working for US Army force in Korean war many years ago...
作者: East    時間: 3-4-2008 14:04

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原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 3-4-2008 09:41 發表 my father had a dark room because he was working for US Army force in Korean war many years ago...

 

OH!! WAR .......US Army.....

Did U tried to play in the dark room? I made photo processing


作者: foureyesfatboy    時間: 3-4-2008 14:21

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原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 3-4-2008 09:41 發表 my father had a dark room because he was working for US Army force in Korean war many years ago...

 

US darkman?


作者: East    時間: 3-4-2008 16:13

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原帖由 foureyesfatboy 於 3-4-2008 14:21 發表   US darkman?

 

Darkman?

 


作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 3-4-2008 19:32

that was long long time ago..we don't have that room any more...

But myself was no interest in that matter at that time...

I was only interest in ice cream at that time which is more fun that dark room...


作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 3-4-2008 19:34

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原帖由 foureyesfatboy 於 3-4-2008 14:21 發表   US darkman?
do not turn off your light when you go to sleep ? remember hecan see you very well....tonight
作者: East    時間: 3-4-2008 23:07

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原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 3-4-2008 19:34 發表 do not turn off your light when you go to sleep ? remember hecan see you very well....tonight

 

 

 

How about now?? Do U like take photos too?

 


作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 4-4-2008 02:07

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原帖由 East 於 3-4-2008 23:07 發表       How about now?? Do U like take photos too?  
not so crazy about it...do you like taking pictures for your girl friends  ? 

 


作者: East    時間: 4-4-2008 09:37

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原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 4-4-2008 02:07 發表 not so crazy about it...do you like taking pictures for your girl friends  ?   

 

Oh!! That's the story before my marriage

Yes, I did! It was one of my 必殺技 at that time.

That was also the "first date" activities with my wife in 13 yrs ago.

Most of the girls would like to take nice photos,

so photo taking is really a good dating skill.

But first you must learn and invest for the "gears".....

1) 半專業至專業的單鏡機 (行出來唔影得都睇得 )

2) 兩枝高質鏡頭 (一定要有人像鏡)

3) 一個靚的 Softer (這個好重要, 大部份女仔buy Softer D 效果, 原因.....不用說了 )

 

4) 腳架 (For 自拍或夜境用)

 

5) 靚閃燈 (optional)

 

已前就只是識影相就夠, 現在就一定要識用 Photoshop retouch.......

記著retouch完才好曬相, 也千祈不要克意話給對方知你執過那裡......

 

雖然用菲林D顏色及層次會好些, 但我都是見意用 數碼機影.

 

原因有三個:

 

1) 價錢: 數碼相影幾多都唔洗錢, 可一於用有殺錯無放過的戰法去拍. 就算不夠專業也可偶然捉到靚畫面

 

2) 執相方便些

 

3) 不要比女友覺得是追不上時代的守舊oldcake, 若真的喜歡用菲林機, 大可帶多部菲林機, 但一定要用數碼相機為主

 

之後就是祝你好運 !!

 

 

[ 本帖最後由 East 於 4-4-2008 09:42 編輯 ]
作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 4-4-2008 10:52

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原帖由 East 於 4-4-2008 09:37 發表   Oh!! That's the story before my marriage Yes, I did! It was one of my 必殺技 at that time. That was also the "first date" activities with my wife in 13 yrs ago. Most of the gi ...
我和陳灌浠 都要向你學嘢 !
作者: East    時間: 4-4-2008 18:56

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原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 4-4-2008 10:52 發表 我和陳灌浠 都要向你學嘢 !

 

陳灌浠 個朵臭曬學什麼都無用了


作者: 拾實什習窄炸集    時間: 4-4-2008 21:10

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原帖由 East 於 4-4-2008 18:56 發表   陳灌浠 個朵臭曬學什麼都無用了
why he become a star at the first place anyway ? very strange ?
作者: ar-    時間: 17-4-2008 02:41

其實菲林數碼都冇乜所胃,最終都係要個結果之嗎!!!理得佢用咩影,總之張相得咪係好机囉!!!

 

16x20都聽過,但非常小人用,好似係博物館那類須要的人会用,用於翻拍之用,部机非常巨大,

 

[ 本帖最後由 ar- 於 17-4-2008 03:15 編輯 ]




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